Happy new year

What i find SO FASCINATING, is how “Rescue” will invent his OWN interpretation of Torah, LITERALLY OUT OF THIN AIR, contrary to the EXPLICIT reading, and then say that anyone who reads it literally is dogmatic and has an extreme agenda
(Example: capital punishment for shabbos etc… and worshping other gods. Just makes up stupidity and says “calm down”.).

But then, when understanding Torah according to thousands of years of jewish understanding, he’ll say “you’re adding on cuz it’s not written”. Written where? In the “Bible”? Thats not a Torah concept from the God of Israel. The concept of Holy Scripture (Kisvay Hakodesh) was invented by Prushim.

The Mishna, on the other hand, represents the best, closest record of the last Sanhedrin before the Churban, and therefore has much more authority in Torah, in the only religion/ covenant of the God of Israel.

Rescue:
Please read the whole comment. You’re not reading, so there’s no point in continuing.
Please study history, specifically how gods and religions work.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DIFFERENT RELIGIONS WITH THE SAME GOD!!!

Basic historical knowledge of how gods work.
They are national symbols. The religion of the Mexican gods is that which the Mexicans historically followed. The same goes for ALL gods/nations.
There’s ONLY ONE religion per God. Historical fact. Having a different religion for the same god, different than the national religion of that god, is like identifying as spaghetti and expecting a spaghetti bathroom. Doesn’t wirk that way historically.
The “Abrahimic” religions are just jewish conspiracies to conquer the world and make the nations worship the Jewish God.
But that does NOT change the national religion of the God of Israel

My friend rescue, who so dearly wants to reconcile humanism with Torah:
I feel your pain.
But no. Sorry.

The reason why ppl don’t die after being mechallel shabbat is because the Sanhedrin was removed from authority 2000 years ago. The Law didn’t change. Only the enforcement is temporarily unavailable.
Moshe killed a man for desecrating shabbos. It’s explicit.
And there are many other examples of Laws you probably dont like.

Your question of “WHY “God” wud command that”, is good, but doesn’t change the fact that the Torah DID command that.
The god of humanism is not the God of Israel who gave us the Torah.

In fact, your position is “extreme”, by changing Torah to fit your agenda. I dont have a position here at all. Just telling you facts.

I wish you all the best and a very Happy Mo’ed!

We’re going in circles here. Accomplishing nothing, because rescue has decided what he wants and wants to pretend that his ideology somehow is the correct interpretation of Torah. Then he asks me which part contradicts what he said.

99% of the Torah contradicts what you said. The Torah demands 100% Complete Obedience, without the ability to decide on your own. This strict “blind” Obedience is demanded many many times throughout the Torah.

Rescue doesn’t want to acknowledge this, so he keeps spewing his own ideas. I have nothing against those ideas personally, but don’t claim it’s Torah. It’s not.

Does killing people for violating shabbos or demanding the removal of chometz etc… (we cud go on and on) fit with your “moral guidance”, rescue?

You don’t like it, so you say it can’t be. You want Torah to be what YOU want. OK. Be healthy. Enjoy! Bye

Dear Rescue,

You’re more than welcome to express humanist ideology and promotion of your perception of what is good and proper.

But you have NO right to pretend that this is somehow the truth behind the Torah, and something that the God of Israel wants.

Make up your own god and humanist ideology. Great. That’s fine.

But its NOT what the “bible” teaches. Please don’t lie.
I already proved above (and you fully agreed) that the Torah does NOT agree with you.

This whole thread is stupidity. The “god” of “rescue” is NOT the same God of Israel who gave the Torah Law. MOST of the Laws of the Torah are about treating others with cruelty if they dont toe the exact line as delineated by the Torah.
Think of capital punishment and public flogging, which are EXPLICITLY commanded MANY MANY times. Killing and Enslaving others who are different are EXPLICITLY commanded by the Torah. And what does “cut off from the nation” mean? כרת. It’s definitely not good.
If I eat food reserved for the elite Kohanim, I’m deserving of death.

I understand that “rescue” doesn’t approve of the Law of the God of Israel, and so he wants to invent his own god based on his own moral conscience. That’s perfectly fine with me personally, but just label your god as “the god of rescue”, not the God of Israel who gave the Torah Law of Moshe.

Each person can invent their own god, based on what they would want god to be like.

And yes, one of the commandments is to “Love your friend like yourself”, but that’s NOT the only command; although it’s the only one that “rescue” accepts. And NO, the fact that Hillel or R Akiva and other Rabbis have glorified this one command does NOT make it supersede the rest of the Law of the Torah.
Sorry “rescue”. But we don’t get to invent our own gods.
It wud be AWESOME if we cud tho…

@besalel :

I didn’t learn in yeshiva! I am completely independent!

I learned kol haTorah kula, inside and out, from the truthful and historical perspective. I understand these matters better than 99.99%.

You dont know who you’re talking to, and I’m alot older than you think.

But we can agree that the yeshiva system today is not learning properly as I’ve said many times on other posts and coffee room discussions….. look it up….

10 years learning full time (starting 9th grade) and they still didn’t finish shas bavli and mishna at least??

Obama!!

18 years ago, everyone said we have to leave America because of Obama.

Thanks for Trump, who saved America. MAGA!

Only 3 more years and the wheel will turn again. The future is unknown….

To those reading this in 18 years (2044), how did it go?
I really wanna know? Can you tell me?
Thanks

Torah is legal. Not ruchniyus. Ruchniyus is for goyim.

If your hair is covered, it’s covered. PERIOD!

Don’t tell me about “the whole purpose of the Chiyuv is this or that….”.
By that “logic”, every suka today is pasul, because its not “Mgarncha Umiyikvecha”.

All 39 melachos of shabbos would be batel, cuz its not “Tishbos = rest”.

EVERY Mitzvah in the Torah is batel, according to your “logic”.

Torah is Law. Sometimes we are Doresh Taamey dikra. Machlokes when. But usually not! (Maybe on a D’rabanan. But not a D’oraysa)

Do we shave our heads with razors today because the Comrey Akum dont act like that anymore??

Is a Tattoo permitted today because the Akum dont exist in our Western world (only in India, which none of us ever goes to.)

But not stam. Just make up a new religion, based on YOUR OWN HEART and YOUR OWN MORALS / ETHICS.

The Torah Law decides. Not what YOU think!!

L’Kulah and L’Chumra!

Wtf u talking bout??

This is a **famous unsolved problem in number theory**.

### Short answer

* **It is conjectured that YES**, for **every integer ( n \ge 2 )** there exist **positive integers** ( x,y,z ) such that
[
\frac{4}{n} = \frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{z}.
]
* This statement is called the **Erd?s�Straus Conjecture** (1948).
* **It has not been proven in full generality**, but it has been **verified for all ( n ) up to extremely large bounds** (well beyond (10^{17})) and proven for many infinite classes of ( n ).

—

## What *is* known for sure

### ? Verified computationally

The equation has been checked and **works for every ( n \ge 2 )** up to enormous limits by computer search.

### ? Proven for many infinite families

For example, solutions are known when:

* ( n \equiv 0,1,2 \pmod{4} )
* ( n ) has certain prime factorizations
* ( n ) is even
* ( n ) is divisible by many primes

Only certain rare forms of odd numbers require deeper checking�but all tested cases work.

—

## Example solutions

### Example 1: ( n = 2 )

[
\frac{4}{2} = 2 = \frac{1}{1} + \frac{1}{1} + \frac{1}{\infty}
]
(Trivial case; usually excluded.)

### Example 2: ( n = 3 )

[
\frac{4}{3} = \frac{1}{1} + \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{12}
]

### Example 3: ( n = 5 )

[
\frac{4}{5} = \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{20}
]

### Example 4: General construction (one of many)

If ( n \equiv 2 \pmod{4} ), then:
[
\frac{4}{n}
= \frac{1}{\frac{n}{2}}

* \frac{1}{n}
* \frac{1}{n}
]

—

## Why this is hard

* Writing a rational number as a sum of **unit fractions** (Egyptian fractions) is highly non-unique.
* The difficulty is proving **existence for all integers**, not finding examples.
* No counterexample is known.

—

## Final conclusion

* ?? **Yes, it is believed that such a decomposition always exists**
* ? **But it has not been proven for all ( n \ge 2 )**
* ? This is a major open conjecture in mathematics

Mir. Mir. Mir. Mir. Mir. Did I say mir?

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Ppl make fun of those who are not culturally the same as them.

This has NOTHING to do with religion, but rather cultural association.

They make fun of chassidim, and they use even more derogatory terms to refer to those more frum than them.

People who live in other people’s houses/apartments think they are above morality. They don’t have to pay to live in someone’s house. Gimme ur house and don’t ask for payment!!

Not paying rent is STEALING and NOT moral. At all. Sorry.
Move to north Korea or Cuba. Everyone is equal there. No one has anything.

Most “chasidim” today ARE sfardi.

Think Hungary, Romania etc…
Mostly sfardim from the ottoman empire.

(Remember R Portugal from Skulen? Remember the Aruch hashulchan from Barbashti? Remember R katzelenbogen? Sat, Katz, karmen, all are sfardim)

Sorry, none2.0, I will NOT CONFORM to your version of “morality”. People have different versions of morality. What’s right and what’s wrong. You either follow an established version (such as the Torah’s, which u probably don’t actually accept, if u wud study it), or America’s, or u make up ur own, like the Wild West

Me

I’m very happy that I’m the only one that none2.0 wasn’t able to respond to. Thank you!

I’ll take the medal. My point has been proven true.
There is no “written” Torah, and its certainly not what you call “tanach”.
To AAQ, I’m referring to the idea that all these books are one entity, like this none2.0 thinks.
The Law of Israel is the Torah (as taught and studied – mishna, talmud – by generations of all Israel – not limited to a particular sect), not a set of books that were canonized, or sanctified by the Prushim. Even in Yavne there were deciding which books to make holy. The study of Torah, i.e theTalmud, on the other hand, was universal and existed way before the “tanach”.

None2.0 thinks he’s smart, but he’s clearly ignorant of historical reality and the fact he thinks the “writtenTorah” is divine, proves it. There is no “written Torah”. That’s sectarian. Only the Law, as taught and studied. Over 80% of today’s Talmud was universal among all Israeli groups (including tzedokim and Kuthim/Shomronim). Every time they argued with the Prushim, it is recorded. Most of the time, they agreed.
In fact, there are times when chazal paskened like the Tzedokim, and i can prove it. This is Torah. Not the “Bible”.

Hey @SQUARE_ROOT

what about me??

How come i don’t qualify as Kanoi??

Please add me to the list. Thank you!!