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apushatayid -“Yes, one incident is one too many, but the hyperbole of some is outrageous to the point where the OP writes “How did we become just like the Goyim, that when there isn’t a parent or a Rebbe watching us, we need the cops around to make us behave?” Of course this was later watered down to only on the bus, but elsewhere not. I guess even the OP is starting to realize just how ridiculous that statement is.”

No, I stand by my statement. Just because you took it out of context doesn’t mean it wasn’t factual. I didn’t say they are like the Goyim because they do drugs all day. Reread the post.

Are you from the type that doesn’t take “Derech Erez Kodma L’torah” seriously? There must be a lot in our community like this because the kids learn behavior from their Rebbeyim and parents. If these people are lacking in this – it filters down to the kids. And I don’t know about the whole NY/NJ area, but I do know about Lakewood and hardly ever are cops called to the PS buses. And the Goyim that live here are Not what you call from the upper class. So just maybe you should think that perhaps this type of behavior is a Chillul Hashem, which is a very bad Aveira, in spite of the fact they haven’t made an Asifa about this!?!