mw13 R’ hirschs hashkafa of tora im derech eretz and MOs hashkafa of torah umaada are not only not alike- they are diametrically opposed. see artscrols biography of r hirsch. r hirsch held that torah reigns supreme and with it secular subjects can be understood better whereas r norman lamm (quoted in the biography -not me-) says that both torah and secular subjects have what to glean from each other. look there. if i keep writing il;l get modded. also worthy to note that r hirsch was emphatically opposed to the state of israel and for some reason MO decided that r hirsch had their agenda. again this i believe to be factual- see his biography by artscroll. he actually mazintained a position closer to satmar then the rest of the jewish community. i know everyone will say i’m crazy and ignorant but this is historically accurate. kol tuv
