I was not going to comment on this whole web thread- too many lunatics around here but I’ll just say this- none of us knows the truth- you can argue till you are blue and green in the face- the medinah is here and jews are prospering there. there are problems, for sure, but at a certain moment in our history- a whole people was condemend to die in the desert…because they slandered eretz ysroel…
For now -the existence of the medinah is enough for me. Maybe in five hundred years- the view of the anti-zionists may prevail- till then, i’ll trust my eyes before trusting some lunatics.