@Always_Ask_Questions
when i say\ the data re college grads is not or rather less releavnt for frum jews, I mean re oppurtunties. For a non jew without a degree where is he working? Who hires someone without a degree in the secular world? But in our own homegrown economy, mnay get hired with well paying jobs in non colllege degree fields too. Nursing home admins are a great example but thats only one of many. So the study about the salary gap college vs non college grads is less applicable for frum jews. And many of those eran just as much as people in my feild which is highly regarded. Whats more, in my feild there is a ceiling. So maybe after 7-8 years if real savvy you become a director. For AVP or more you need to be real savvy, slick and play the corp game. Even then the job security is fragile. They cut senior positions much quicker than the mid level postion who does the heavy lifiting. And so you cap out at say 200-250 after bonus with all on the books. Contrast that to a regional director at a nursing home, making 250K plus free car leases and other business expeneses which is a huge perk that brings the value way above 300K.
Fair point re the fact that as a business owner its hard to even survive without being gray bec many competitors are that. I concede on that one. But not everyone is a business owner and I think since it still exists in every field, college or not, that reasoning isn’t compelling in my mind. (as a side note, i know wealthy college educated who are pretty big ganavim too and sat or almost sat in jail)