AAQ Please do read the ‘whole long post’ if you want to understand what I am actually saying.
AAQ: So, Jews – and non-Jews – serving in the American army deserve their level of respect. How does this contradict the fact that IDF protects Jews in Israel?
It doesn’t. But American GIs aren’t “kedoshim”. They do deserve “their level” of respect. But the “sheep to the slaughter” (including the ???? ????? ????? for goodness sake…) deserve MUCH MORE respect than them, not less.
AAQ: I did not read this whole long thread, so I may be not following this. Are you in the camp of “Jews could have lived in other places”?
This isn’t at all the subject of my post. ZSK went back “2000 years”. Including ALL the REAL ?????? of all time, and threw them under the bus of ??? ????? ??? machismo.
AAQ: This is not true historically – before WW2 and after WW2, there was no place in US or UK for all Jews of Europe. Same for Sephardi and Soviet Jews, majority of whom found a save place in Israel. Undoubtedly, early zionists and state of Israel saved Jewish lives.
(Note that this has nothing to do with anything I wrote, but if you asked already…)
Baloney. There was much more infrastructure and local Jewish wealth in the US and other places than there was in ‘British Palestine’. It would have been easier and safer for Jews to go to other places. The Zionists (including Stephen Wise who advised Roosevelt on “Jewish matters”) wouldn’t hear of it. You also seem to assume that any Jew who wanted to move to EY during the 30s could do so freely. That was not true. Mainly because of the Arab backlash to Zionism and the resultant British fear of unrest in Muslim parts of their empire.
AAQ: Furthermore, in terms of assimilation, Israeli Jews are fairing much better than those who settled elsewhere. Even those who are not religious, have a high chance of marrying someone Jewish.
So what, that has nothing to do with who is or isn’t a ????, and what Judaism says about the value or lack thereof of “going down with a fight”. Someone pointed out yesterday that Ben Gurion’s own son managed to marry a shiksa and live with her in Israel. So “stopping intermarriage” wasn’t why they made Israel, was it…