To aaq
You’re missing the point. Chabad like to brag that they invented Kiruv and mainstream Kiruv developed because they were copying what Chabad was doing. The facts don’t justify their conclusion since NCSY preceded the first Chabad house by 15 years. You’re suggesting that there were individual Lubavichers who were doing kiruv before 1969. That’s certainly possible, but there’s no reason to assume that there was no mainstream Kiruv before 1954. Yankel Berel and I are simply challenging Chabad’s assertion.
To somejewiknow
I was simply responding to your point. Rav Herschel Schachter and Rav Mordechai Willig are two of the great leaders of Modern Orthodoxy and they have never, Chas Vsholom, endorsed any deviation in Halacha or in our tradition. If there are individuals who are calling themselves Modern Orthodox who are violating Halacha, this is not a reflection of Modern Orthodoxy, just as an individual Chassid who’s convicted of some white-collar crime doesn’t prove that all Chassidim are thieves.
To yedl
Since you agree that there are issues within Chabad, we’re good. It’s not necessary for us to be perfectly aligned. My beef has always been with the YYA’s of the world who refuse to acknowledge that there’s anything wrong with Chabad and use any type of deceitful tactics to win the day.