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AAQ – your example is fair as is your frustration. I am saying that similar matzav existed in other countries. Fathers with shtreimlach had children who were going to anarchist/communist/bundist meetings and got excited about those ideas
First of all, you use the word “frustration” as if this is a personal peeve of mine. This is ????? ???? ???? if anything ever was. As a believing Jew, why doesn’t this make your blood boil?
It is true that IN OTHER PLACES there were issues like the ones you mentioned. But if you carefully read my example, the story happened IN A CLOSED AND ISOLATED COMMUNITY = ??? ???? ????? in the language of Chazal, and was done BY DECEPTION = not ????? ??????, and when the parents tried to resist THE CHILONIM FORCED THEM TO COMPLY AGAINST THEIR WILL. Now, try to understand how this pattern repeated itself again and again over the last 100 years, from the ???? ??????? to the ??? ???? to the ???? ???? through to the IDF… Now do you begin to understand what is going on?
