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Blah, blah, blah.

We’ve been through this a thousand times, and as far as I can tell it’s just an easy soapbox for someone to claim moral superiority without having to substantiate or even explain their position.

Please provide a definition of “Jewish music.”

Also, please explain why Chassidishe niggunim are all so similar in style to Eastern European music of 200 years ago, why Sefardic music is so similar in style to Arabic music, etc.

The fact is that our music has been influenced by that of the culture around us for centuries, and this is true even of those songs that you consider the purest Jewish niggunim.


@Sam
Klein points with nostalgia to the music and singers of “last generation.” Taken literally, this would refer to the music and singers of the early 2000’s, which were not substantially different from that of today. In fact, I’m sure we can find Sammy boy lodging the same complaint in the nascent days of the CR (albeit under a different User Name). Perhaps he refers to 40 years ago, when MBD was singing Yidden, and Abie Rotenberg was adapting the style of Peter, Paul and Mary? Or 60 years ago, the days of Shlomo Carlebach and the Diaspora Yeshiva Band? 80 years brings us right back to when the greatest talents in Modzitz were emulating the Eastern European composers, as noted above…

With one or two exceptions, our tunes are not from the Beis HaMikdash, and what you might find inspirational and meaningful might be old-fashioned and meaningless to someone else.

Remember, those songs that you recall so fondly and with such reverence earned the scorn of the cranky old fuddy duddy of your younger years.

Go do something important with your time.