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August 1, 2025 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm
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YYA > Many of the secularists themselves at the time were from Frum homes
right, and note that many became secular in those several generations based on what was going at the times in general, nothing specific to zionism. those who chose Zionism instead of communism had a way better chance to both survive themselves and not become murderers and gangsters. Note that the rabbis at the time did not have a good solution for these problems despite desperate attempts.
