yankel > If they will – validly – point towards the many anti torah activities the state engages in . Then the answer should be al pi torah that we advocate for the cessation of those activities.
This may be a sign of … assimilation. Recent generations are growing up entitled to a lot of things from their parents and society in general. One American sociologist writes that recent sharp reduction in births in US is partly due to the “children” looking at how much their parents were doing for them – and realizing that they are not capable of the same, so they skip on the kids … So, here a cluster of population feels that society somehow “owes” them benefits and they are entitled to disregard their civil obligations because society is “not good enough for them”.
How bad the situation really is? Jews for centuries lived in societies that double-taxed us, limited jobs, murdered us once-in-while – and we continued being observant Jews. And most siddurim have brochos for the kings, czars, and kaisers and their families (by name – czarina, their children). Why suddenly, it is not possible to give a misheberach to a Jewish government and army? Maybe charedim are, in their hearts, biggest zionists after all – they expect that Zionists have to establish a halachik state, provide support to Torah learners (while still given them passports for occasional vacations) – and only then they’ll come out and join other Yidden.
What will happen when Moschach b’ Yosef comes and forms his army? Will he wait until yeshiva bochrim learn to operate the tanks or will he go with “the army we have” and the bochrim will be pleading to be taken in? start training now, if you don’t want to be on the sidelines.