….. Coupled with forceful suppression of internal dissent.
Anyone who dissented or merely was suspected of dissent ,was made to pay a very heavy price….
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Are you alluding to the way Satmar or Ponevezh treated dissent?
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I was referring to false mashiach movements , who as part of their indoctrination tactics try to play the infallibility card.
As far as I know , none of the names you mention are playing the infallibility card, none have any aspirations to occupy the seat of our Redeemer, and none are suppressing dissent with a mashiach goal in mind.
All the controversies, arguments or fights which happened there, are ,as far I understand, arguments over real estate and finances. Nothing more.
I am surprised that you do not see this obvious difference.
The purpose of this argument between us is NOT to see who can throw more dirt on our opponents and thus emerge ‘victorious’.
The purpose is to understand the operandus modi of false mashiach movements, and to salvage from them whatever is still possible.
That’s the reason of the original question – is there a source for infallibility of the habad rebbi – anywhere ? From proofs from hazal to cold torah logic ?
Can you prove that the rebbi of the habad hasidim is infallible and cannot make a mistake ?
And , in absence of such proof , can you explain why the hasidim from habad are obstinately refusing to even entertain that possibility ?
They will do themselves, HKBH and the whole of klal yisrael an IMMENSE FAVOR for taking this option into account.
Klal yisrael will then be able to stop and eliminate any and all attempts by Xtians to pull unsuspecting victims into their net , by rightfully asking : if your rebbi can come back, so why can’t mine ???
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Think about all those posts with sincerity , and let me know when you changed your mind about meshihiyut in habad.
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