1) No, it is not a substantive argument. It would be – if you were not actually appealing to the authority of very specific Rabbonim that *you* approve of while rejecting the very clear authority of other legitimate Rabbonim who held differently, by way of accusations that those differring Rabbonim are guilty of the worst forms of ????????? and therefore outside the ?????. That *isn’t* a good faith argument.
Spell out the arguments you’ve heard that came from the 3-4 Rabbonim you constantly cite. I learned Vayoel Moshe and quite a few anti-Zionist seforim and am familiar with their positions vis a vis the state, the R”Z community, the IDF, etc. I’m not demanding you do so for me. I’m demanding it for everyone else.
2) I reject the premise that the Satmar Rebbe was a global authority. He was an authority for Satmar and those like them (i.e. Vizhnitz). He never was authoritative for the Litvish community, even though the Litvish community widely agreed with many of his views and showed him the necessary respect due to a Rav (because the SR’s views aligned with the views of REW, the Chazon Ish, Rav Schach, etc.). However, the Litvish community asks Litvish Rabbonim their questions, not Chassidishe Rebbes. He did not have ???? over them. He was never an authority for ????? ???? ?????, and certainly not for ?????? ???? ??? ????? ???????. It is true that he wrote the most well known work about that ?????, but he was most definitely questioned. Which leads to my next point.
3) Re: works. Yes, I know you asked. However, when the starting premise is that anything that comes out of the R”Z community is ??? and full-on ????????? from the start, there is no point. You wouldn’t seriously consider or engage with the sources even if I provide them. But anyway, here you go:
Sources that directly question the SR:
(1) Rav Aviner wrote ??? ???? – ???? ???? ????? ??? and ?????? ??? ???? ?????.
(2) Rav Chaim Drukman wrote a response in ???? ???? ??? ?.
Others:
(3) A quick Google search reveals Shiurim on VaYoel Moshe and responses thereto on websites belonging to ?????? ???? ?? ????? ???? ????? – at the minimum. I am sure a more detailed search (which I don’t realistically have time for until ????? ??? ????) will show more.
Rabbonim who spoke positively of Zionism: Google the origins of the Mizrachi movement. There are far too many to mention, but many of them learned in the Volozhin Yeshiva and were part of Chibat Tzion. That speaks volumes inof itself. The Litvish derech clearly does not share your negative view of the state.
By the way, there are also Charedi Rabbonim who wrote works that at least partially questioned the Satmar Rebbe while also pointing out the issues with ideologically Secularist Zionists, the IDF and the State itself, problems that R”Z public agree with (certainly ??????? agree, considering they only left the Charedi community because Rav Schach kicked them out). Lev Avraham comes to mind as one of such seforim.
4) I reject the premise that VaYoel Moshe is Halachik in nature. I refer you to my prior comments about such. Even if it is, it is not binding upon all of ??? ?????, it is at most binding upon Satmar and those who accept the authority of the SR. As I have said, the SR was not a widely accepted Rav, neither were his ???? ???? nor his ????? ????. (Parenthetically, you have in the past devolved into actual slander of ??? ??? ????, I have refrained from doing the same about the SR- and there is plenty I could say about him. I have merely questioned the contents of his book (more like magnum opus) – admittedly more disrespectfully than I should have.)
4) Jumping back to authority, as Chaim said, Ruzhin Chassidus stands in stark contrast to Satmar as a Charedi/Chassidish community that does not agree with the Satmarer and views Zionism positively.
5) You said “I have seen poskin oser, at least lechatlchila, taking a R”Z as witnesses to a kesiba, may we Jews be saved from their wicked ways”. Name the Rav who said that. If you can’t, you made it up and it’s what *you* would do if *you* had the authority to do so.
5) As for your last two responses, you’ve finally answered, albeit in a roundabout manner. You believe the R”Z community is heretical, and you will answer HKB”H after 120 for the slander. You believe anyone who disagrees with Satmar is a heretic. You’re a coward and won’t say it. There’s no other explanation for the condemnatory side comments in the following:
– “I have seen poskin oser, at least lechatlchila, taking a R”Z as witnesses to a kesiba, may we Jews be saved from their wicked ways”.
– “I suppose, I could compile an incredible pro-heresy (zionist) “sefer” by just compiling all of the Satmar Rebbe’s kashas, and not include his answers, but that would be very dishonest and hollow.”
– “While I don’t learn Torah from kofrim, I am still bound by – lehavdil – the shulchan aruch even if they quote it. So too, if a kofer (chalila they should learn) mentions a Torah source that informs something about the status of zionism or out relationship to it, I would of course be obligated to those Torah sources as per the Jewish mesorah.”