“I don’t think you really mean this. I think you treat government as the fallback solution when nothing else is obvious.”
Even if thats true, that doesnt contradict what I said to which you “Agreed in theory,” what I said was ““I’m not looking for an all encompassing solution. Each area can be different.”
So manufacturing works better in private hands let them handle it
Fire fighting works better in Government hands (for arguments sake) let them handle it
education not sure which is better no obvious solution so we’ll fallback on the government until we come up with a less obvious/ better approach that may not involve the government. This doesnt contradict what I said at all .
In other words I DO treat government as a fallback solution when nothing else is obvious at the same time I’m not looking for an all encompassing solution. Each area can be different.
“. My shittah is that if there are problems that aren’t financially advantageous enough to be naturally dealt with within a free capitalistic system, then they aren’t truly worth dealing with at all no matter how cold that may sound.”
Not just cold it sounds evil (as you sort of concede “Any crimes where the victims cannot functionally stick up for themselves (child abuse, animal abuse, elder abuse, poisoning a town’s water supply) are good arguments you could use against me”
not thinking that child abuse is a problem “truly worth dealing with” is more than cold
“This renders all of those statements meaningless. If they’re all allowed to be subjective, then I will just declare that I personally think the government solution is subjectively worse. That’s just my opinion, but you left it up to my opinion with this clause.”
Not at all Again there is no “government solution”
If you define “better” as tasting better, cleaner, safer, cheaper, better for teeth. However we define it the government can regulate accordingly . If you define better as more poisonous we can do that too! More likely it will be a balance of all of the above (except more poisonous that is more likely with your capaitilistic system)
” since it’s unlikely an entire building would not pay for protection”
Lol! this literally made me laugh out loud. not unlikely it is a certainty some people wouldn’t pay. (I know people who intentially set fires, you think they have “remembered” to pay for the fire fighting ) . and again “unlikely ” is not good enough. If it is “likely ” that my neighbor 10 feet away rmebered to pay annual fire service bill , that is not very reassuring .
“need to feel like everything is “free” because we ignore the fact that we pay for it with taxes.”
It isnt ignoring the fact. It is a feature of the system
“I appreciate your restraint. My position could be called a lot worse than odd. Genuinely, I really do appreciate how interested you seem to be in something that 99% of people would just swear off as “crazy” almost right away.”
In this post, My restraint waned a bit (sounds evil) , but it is fascinating . . Ive had these discussions before (simplistic statements like FDA shouldn’t exist or Public health shouldn’t exist etc) you’re the first who is sticking to this “cold” (your word) evil sounding shita Kudos I guess?
Is it your own? Ive met liberterians before, but as you said earlier you arent really a libertarian. Closer to an Anarchist. Do you oppose all government?
Who or what shaped this ideology of yours?
(Im not big on arguments of authority the few times you thought I made one I wasnt eg the Rambam wasnt a reply to you and same in time zone thread reg Aguda) rather to spare you endless questions and this back and forth sometimes takign day for post to go up is a bit ineffcent — maybe government could do better 🙂 )