Reply To: Daas Torah in gemora

Gedol, I needled you for a reason (: I do not consider modernishe such a bad word, I just want to make sure that people who think they are not be more realistic. Avraham was modernishe as he (literally) fought wars of his time, not of Noach’s times, and everyone else was similarly modernishe addressing issues of their time, as the Torah says -go to the judge in your gates …

With erusin, you, similarly to n0, take an example of a social practice with a halachik basis. Same with, kesuba or schools – they changed over time, gemora itself is telling us the history of those changes and social reasons: Rabbis experimented until they found a solution. DT is a fundamental principle of relating to life. If you want to say that this is a new practice that did not exist during gemora because we now need it, ok, I’ll listen to the argument why. But, instead, it is usually presented that “Yaakov was wearing the hat” mebeersheva. Not accusing you personally.

> I don’t see anything for ?????? to get excited about.

So, the student rejects Rav’s advice and halachik argument out of hand without even uttering a word and this is OK? if you come to your ruv and ask his advice for a shidduch, is it OK to reject his advice, especially if it questions Ruv’s yichus? Or is it OK to not even ask? I am trying to put myself in DT shoes, but maybe I am missing the boat (while mixing metaphors)