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DY: sorry, I misquoted – 3rd cup should not be combined “for bad”
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Btw, interesting motivation for the discussion: after we say that we give poor people 4 cups, the question – for sure, Rabbis would not establish a law that puts people in danger, thus we need to find an explanation: ?????? ?????????? ???????? ??????? ???????? ????? ?????? ????????
contrary to some CR residents, Gemorah is not ending it with “well, surely Tannaim knew daas Torah, so let’s not ask the question”
another possibility: Tannaim did not care about the pairs, but Amoraim did in part through their contact with Persians. A lot of following discussion of mazikim relates to Persian customs – either interacting or arguing with them. I started reading one fascinating dissertation comparing Persian culture with Talmudic, then almost started reading the second but stopped, realizing that I should not read them in pairs …
