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ujm: so would it be true then that when organizations and people target a person for not giving a get, what they are really doing is targeting him for being a msareiv but essentially they are permitted to target him? would it not also then be true that if, lets say, a mother of a “get refuser” is given a hazmonos beis din but she is msareiv (or is it msarevet?) beis din then the mother must suffer the same negative consequences?