APY
“they must then tell us how they define BOTH terms otherwise their response is meaningless”
Again, One term was defined in the OP
And the other wasnt defined by the OP, but other posters (my self included) did define it . “An erliche yid follows what shulchan aruch says.as long as he washes makes berachos and benches the foodie is erlich.”
Aagain you are free to disagree with either of those definitions., but both terms have been defined.